The unpredictable positioning of a Floating Element

INCONSISTENT ALIGNMENT

Why does a floating element sometimes align vertically with the adjacent non-floating element, while other times it aligns with the top border of its container? This variability seems to be influenced by the border-top-width and overflow properties. Any insights?


Exploration

While tinkering with a layout involving <img> elements, I encountered an issue with inconsistent vertical alignment between a floating element and a block-level non-floating element. As someone who just delved into HTML/CSS self-study recently, I'm open to constructive criticism in case I've missed any fundamental concepts.

Breakdown

The setup includes a floating element and a non-floating block element within a <div> container.

The floating element (p1) has fixed width and zero margin, and can float left or right. It is the first element to float alongside the containing box.

The adjacent element (p2) is a non-floating block that wraps around p1, with specified non-zero margins to illustrate misalignment scenarios.

The parent element <div> has no padding.

In this scenario, I observed two distinct ways the floating element (p1) positions itself based on border-top-width and overflow:

  1. The floating element (p1) aligns with the adjacent non-floating element (p2)

    CSS Rules:
    div {border-top-width: 0px;}
    and
    div {overflow: visible;}

  2. The floating element (p1) aligns with the top border of the parent element.

    CSS Rules:
    div {border-top-width: non-0px;}
    or

    div {overflow: auto/hidden/scroll/}

Note that either rule independently influences the alignment in the second scenario.

Sample Code

A simplified version of the code looks like this:

HTML

<div>
    <img src="example.jpg">
    <p>Random text</p>
</div>


CSS

img {
    float: left;
}

/* floating element aligns with adjacent element */

div {
    border: none;
    overflow: visible;
}

or

/* floating element aligns with top border of container */

div {
    border-top-width: 1px;
    overflow: auto;
}


An example is available on jsfiddle: https://jsfiddle.net/tLumj9x7/

Alternatively, you can view the snippet below:

/* <body>, <div> margin set to 0 to avoid interference  */
body {
  margin: 0px;
}

div {
  margin: 0px;
}

/* border drawn above the paragraphs to denote top border of 2nd <div> */
.div1 {
  border-bottom: 1px solid;
}

p {
  border: 1px solid;
}

/* floating paragraph: margin set to 0 to highlight unusual alignment */
.p1 {
  float: left;
  margin: 0px;
  width: 400px;
}

/* note that a <p> element has a default margin of 1em, so this declaration is just for demonstration */
.p2 {
  margin: 16px;
}

input#border:checked~div.div2 {
  border-top: 0.02px solid transparent;
}

input#overflow:checked~div.div2 {
  overflow: auto;
}
<form>
  <input type="checkbox" name="border" id="border" />container border-top-width: non-0<br />
  <input type="checkbox" name="overflow" id="overflow" />container overflow: auto / hidden/ scroll<br />
  <div class="div1">
  </div>
  <div class="div2">
    <p class="p1">Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
    </p>
    <p class="p2">Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure
      dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.
    </p>
  </div>
</form>


Queries

  1. What factors influence the vertical position of a starting floating element in relation to its parent element (in this case, the <div>)?

  2. How does the border-top-width property affect the positioning of the starting floating element?

  3. Similarly, how does the overflow property impact the structural integrity of the container box?

  4. Which scenario represents the default positioning for the starting floating element, if such a default exists?

  5. A related question: When adding margins around a floating element that floats left, why does its margin collapse with the adjacent non-floating element's margin? Is this a standard behavior, considering that floating element margins are said not to collapse?

This marks my debut on stackoverflow, so thank you for engaging with my inquiry! As I navigate the realms of web development, I eagerly await your insightful responses.

Answer №1

  1. When a box is floated, it will be positioned vertically in line with where it would have been if it had not been floated. If it is the first element in its container, its top edge aligns with the top of the content box of its container, causing the div container's content box to move up and down.

  2. In this scenario, when p1 is floated, it is out of flow, allowing the vertical margin of p2 to collapse with its ancestors. However, having a non-0 width border on top prevents the top margin of p2 from collapsing with the top margin of the div element because they are separated by the border.

  3. Setting overflow:auto causes the div to create a block formatting context, preventing margins of descendants from collapsing with the margins of the element that establishes the block formatting context. Another method to establish a block formatting context for the div is by using display:flow-root.

  4. By default, adjacent vertical margins of in-flow block boxes collapse. This results in the default top margin of the p element (p2) collapsing with the top margins of the div and body elements, pushing the floated element lower by increasing the margin above the top of the content box of the div element.

  5. The concept of Collapsing Margins primarily affects vertical margins. In the case of horizontal margins, the overlap between p1 and p2 creates a different effect. The content of p2 wraps around p1 as a stack of line boxes. The left edge of each line box alongside p1 aligns with p1's right margin edge, while p2's left margin remains touching the left edge of the containing div's content box. Thus, unless p2's left margin, border, and padding exceed the width of p1's margin box, they do not impact the position of the left edge of those line boxes.

Answer №2

Attempting to analyze my own queries based on Alochi's feedback to confirm my understanding of the concepts. Grateful for the insights, Alochi!

  1. If a floating box is the first element in its container, its vertical alignment mimics that of a non-floating element within its container (excluding margin collapsing). Essentially, the outer top edge of the floating box coincides with the content edge of the parent element, depending on its margin and border properties.

  2. Regarding the impact of setting border-top-width to 0 or a non-zero value on the positioning of a floating box, the key difference lies in how the margins interact. When the containing block lacks a border (with border-top-width set to 0), the margin of the adjacent non-floating block collapses with the container's margin, giving the illusion of alignment. Conversely, when a non-zero border-top-width surrounds the container, the non-floating block's top margin aligns with the containing block's content edge due to the border's presence.

Thank you for the clarification, which resonated with my initial understanding. Delving deeper into the rules governing float positioning led me to discover rule #8 emphasizing placing floating boxes at their highest point and rule #4 regulating the maximum elevation of a floating box's outer top edge relative to its containing block.

  1. When overflow is set to non-visible, establishing a block formatting context for the element’s children layout as outlined by formatting context rules, the margins of child elements positioned at the top do not collapse with the container's margin, ensuring distinct boundaries between them.

Your explanation of block formatting context was enlightening, prompting me to ponder about the state preceding block formatting's application. Is there an existing concept governing formatting before this stage?

  1. In default scenarios where most block elements like <html>, <body>, <div> lack borders and possess visible overflow, a floating box typically aligns with neighboring non-floating blocks due to margin collapsing phenomena.

  2. A floating element operates independently from non-floating elements within its container, causing adjacent non-floating blocks to position themselves as if the floating element doesn't exist. Only static or relatively positioned non-floating blocks' content adapts around the floating block.

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